Talk:Included Media - Revision history

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		+	First three on the list (Marvel, DC, Wildstorm) are good. We don't need more than that. The point is to limit what we have to deal with, not allow people to app outside characters as OCs. There are PLENTY of characters between those three for someone to find a character, or make a unique OC not based on an existing FC character from elsewhere. We are not obligated to allow every niche character out there, and that's partly why there should be a pitch for any character outside of theme to charstaff before any character is worked on.
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		+	As for overplayed, that is specifically why I mentioned limits of no more than 2 for several subsets of characters like Kryptonians or Greens Lanterns. They DO get played a lot, and it is overwhelming to have three Kryptonians in a TP scene and have anything left over for lower powered characters to do. Any Kryptonian character, canonly, is light years beyond the most powerful characters in Marvel in general (stronger than Hulk, mightier than Thor, faster than Iron Man, etc). Majestic is likewise overpowered as written on the Wildstorm side of things. I feel like if we don't set down that they are functionally equivalent to Marvel characters, Marvel characters will end up overshadowed instead of being equal.
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	I am okay with dulling down DC powers a fraction, but I've honestly not seen myself any examples where it's been an issue either - or at least, I'm not aware of them. This could be, frankly, because Superman doesn't really get played a whole lot too and perhaps tweaking his power level down just a few shades might make him more balanced to a MU* enviornment. --[[User:DeadWeather\|DeadWeather]] ([[User talk:DeadWeather\|talk]]) 07:56, 02 Aug 2020 (UTC)		I am okay with dulling down DC powers a fraction, but I've honestly not seen myself any examples where it's been an issue either - or at least, I'm not aware of them. This could be, frankly, because Superman doesn't really get played a whole lot too and perhaps tweaking his power level down just a few shades might make him more balanced to a MU* enviornment. --[[User:DeadWeather\|DeadWeather]] ([[User talk:DeadWeather\|talk]]) 07:56, 02 Aug 2020 (UTC)
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		+	I don't really feel like toning down power levels is required. I don't see the powerful characters overplayed much. And frankly, when I do, they quickly get no RP from anyone because people get tired of their crap. And to be frank, every character has had their overpower arcs, Marvel and DC alike.
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		+	If we want to close the 'included media' to the list I started with, and consider all others to be effectively OCs, I'm fine with that. It at least slightly reduces the work we have to do in building a blended world and history.
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	The power level for events is easy. We just add a 'Power Level' added to the code as 'Street Level' or 'Powered' as the options. That way the Gothamites, or Hell's Kitchen and such characters won't get mixed in with the Thor's and Flash's or Magneto's of the world.		The power level for events is easy. We just add a 'Power Level' added to the code as 'Street Level' or 'Powered' as the options. That way the Gothamites, or Hell's Kitchen and such characters won't get mixed in with the Thor's and Flash's or Magneto's of the world.

−	I am okay with dulling down DC powers a fraction, but I've honestly not seen myself any examples where it's been an issue either - or at least, I'm not aware of them. This could be, frankly, because Superman doesn't really get played a whole lot too and perhaps tweaking his power level down just a few shades might make him more balanced to a MU* enviornment. ---	+	I am okay with dulling down DC powers a fraction, but I've honestly not seen myself any examples where it's been an issue either - or at least, I'm not aware of them. This could be, frankly, because Superman doesn't really get played a whole lot too and perhaps tweaking his power level down just a few shades might make him more balanced to a MU* enviornment. --[[User:DeadWeather\|DeadWeather]] ([[User talk:DeadWeather\|talk]]) 07:56, 02 Aug 2020 (UTC)

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	Second to that is that I feel we might want to consider putting a power level setting on certain characters to acknowledge that they are on the high level of powers and should not be participating in street level scenes. Someone like Green Lantern should not be playing in Gotham scenes where the average bad guy is a thug with a sledgehammer. I have no problem with the other way around though; if someone like Batman or Green Arrow wants to be in a higher power scene, it's fine - that doesn't seem like it's destined to unbalance the scene (and he's BATMAN so I'm sure he'll think of some way to be useful in it). --[[User:Metahistory\|Metahistory]] ([[User talk:Metahistory\|talk]]) 03:53, 17 July 2020 (UTC)		Second to that is that I feel we might want to consider putting a power level setting on certain characters to acknowledge that they are on the high level of powers and should not be participating in street level scenes. Someone like Green Lantern should not be playing in Gotham scenes where the average bad guy is a thug with a sledgehammer. I have no problem with the other way around though; if someone like Batman or Green Arrow wants to be in a higher power scene, it's fine - that doesn't seem like it's destined to unbalance the scene (and he's BATMAN so I'm sure he'll think of some way to be useful in it). --[[User:Metahistory\|Metahistory]] ([[User talk:Metahistory\|talk]]) 03:53, 17 July 2020 (UTC)
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		+	The power level for events is easy. We just add a 'Power Level' added to the code as 'Street Level' or 'Powered' as the options. That way the Gothamites, or Hell's Kitchen and such characters won't get mixed in with the Thor's and Flash's or Magneto's of the world.
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		+	I am okay with dulling down DC powers a fraction, but I've honestly not seen myself any examples where it's been an issue either - or at least, I'm not aware of them. This could be, frankly, because Superman doesn't really get played a whole lot too and perhaps tweaking his power level down just a few shades might make him more balanced to a MU* enviornment. ---

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		+	After further discussion, I would also highly suggest was lower DC power levels to match Marvel power levels. Superman should be about on the level of Thor for example, not where he's pushing around moons. Otherwise, we're going to see a huge power creep into the DC side of things. To some extent limiting the number of Kryptonians/Green Lanterns/etc will help with that, as will templates for types of characters. But it would be good to write down that that's the case, to head off any power monkies that decide they can just easily trash the entire Avengers team because they're Power Girl or something.
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		+	Second to that is that I feel we might want to consider putting a power level setting on certain characters to acknowledge that they are on the high level of powers and should not be participating in street level scenes. Someone like Green Lantern should not be playing in Gotham scenes where the average bad guy is a thug with a sledgehammer. I have no problem with the other way around though; if someone like Batman or Green Arrow wants to be in a higher power scene, it's fine - that doesn't seem like it's destined to unbalance the scene (and he's BATMAN so I'm sure he'll think of some way to be useful in it). --[[User:Metahistory\|Metahistory]] ([[User talk:Metahistory\|talk]]) 03:53, 17 July 2020 (UTC)
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 #Any others with elements we want?
 #If a player arrives and wants to incorporate an MC from another world, they get evaluated to figure out how to adapt and blend those elements into the game world; staff get the decision during app review and approval; once the app is approved, those elements contained within the app and attendant documents are also approved and incorporated into game canon
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-*shrugs* Or just... don't care if it cuts off new apps from new themes? As I said elsewhere, I don't like the idea of "oh if you want additional themes, pitch them!" For every player you make happy with their snowflake, you will annoy ten more at adding a theme they don't want to have to deal with.
+''shrugs'' Or just... don't care if it cuts off new apps from new themes? As I said elsewhere, I don't like the idea of "oh if you want additional themes, pitch them!" For every player you make happy with their snowflake, you will annoy ten more at adding a theme they don't want to have to deal with.
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-I can agree with making things easier on charstaff by just cutting things off for stuff outside of the themes we select. Though it would probably just make those players app OCs we'd have to judge, really. Banned themes should probably be a thing too.--[[User:Metahistory|Metahistory]] ([[User talk:Metahistory|talk]]) 22:25, 7 July 2020 (UTC)
+I can agree with making things easier on charstaff by just cutting things off for stuff outside of the themes we select. Though it would probably just make those players app OCs we'd have to judge, really. Banned themes should probably be a thing too.

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		+	I can agree with making things easier on charstaff by just cutting things off for stuff outside of the themes we select. Though it would probably just make those players app OCs we'd have to judge, really. Banned themes should probably be a thing too.--[[User:Metahistory\|Metahistory]] ([[User talk:Metahistory\|talk]]) 22:25, 7 July 2020 (UTC)

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		+	shrugs Or just... don't care if it cuts off new apps from new themes? As I said elsewhere, I don't like the idea of "oh if you want additional themes, pitch them!" For every player you make happy with their snowflake, you will annoy ten more at adding a theme they don't want to have to deal with.
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	#If a player arrives and wants to incorporate an MC from another world, they get evaluated to figure out how to adapt and blend those elements into the game world; staff get the decision during app review and approval; once the app is approved, those elements contained within the app and attendant documents are also approved and incorporated into game canon		#If a player arrives and wants to incorporate an MC from another world, they get evaluated to figure out how to adapt and blend those elements into the game world; staff get the decision during app review and approval; once the app is approved, those elements contained within the app and attendant documents are also approved and incorporated into game canon
	--[[User:BlondieWiki\|BlondieWiki]] ([[User talk:BlondieWiki\|talk]]) 19:45, 19 June 2020 (UTC)		--[[User:BlondieWiki\|BlondieWiki]] ([[User talk:BlondieWiki\|talk]]) 19:45, 19 June 2020 (UTC)
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		+	Basically good with this. I think we should require any player wanting an outside theme that hasn't already been approved to make us a pitch. Maybe they can make the character bit so we can respond to them. If they can explain to our satisfaction how the character can work within existing theme or how adding them to theme would not be difficult, I'm okay with it. I am a bit leery of how this procedure might cut off future characters, of course; if we accept one explanation for werecreatures, it will cut off other themely explanations for werecreatures or the like. So we definitely would need to scrutinize the suggestions more closely than a normal character; perhaps it should require several staffers sign off on it instead of just the normal two for charapps?
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