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--[[User:Metahistory|Metahistory]] ([[User talk:Metahistory|talk]]) 20:01, 4 July 2020 (UTC)
 
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I'm more inclined to more hard limits than handwavey ones. I really don't like the idea of alternate world/doppleganger/whatever stuff. It's... ripe for abuse, it's ripe for confusion, and for every player you make happy because they can play their snowflake variant you'll drive ten others away because they can't deal with the inconsistency.
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No, there shouldn't be six variants of Starfire in the game. But we should pick one and stick with it. Major characters should be somewhat set in age and a rough arc; the supporting characters should be able to fit in with them. I feel this does mean saying "no" to specific concepts as well-- for example, if you have set Bruce Wayne as in his 20s (not that I'm suggesting this) then a 15 year old Damian Wayne should be entirely out of the question to app because it's not physically possibly for 25 year old Bruce to have a 15 year old son. Period. I don't want to see staff approving crazy alternate timeline, world-skipping, weird muckery to make it happen. Speaking as someone who has played younger character variants or characters who don't have the arc in their BG to support kids/clones/spouses/whatever being forced on them: this is, to me, a core breaking of consent on the part of the player that's there first. (And don't expect an honest answer when someone is put on the spot of "is this okay" because people will try and go the nice-nice don't make waves route and feel guilty about "ruining other peoples RP".
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--[[User:OwlCity|OwlCity]] ([[User talk:OwlCity|talk]]) 7/4/2020 10:50PM
 
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Revision as of 02:50, 5 July 2020

Theme

The original plan was that any given MC could be adapted in any way the player sees fit; so long as those adaptations could be made to blend with the existing approved world, they could be approved. Once approved, that would be the version of that character within game canon.

Any player wishing to re-app a previously played MC and change their version or adaptation would have to account for that change within their app, explaining how everyone could have experienced the version known in prior RP, while allowing for their desired changes. Clones, magical duplicates, evil twins, other-dimensional dopplegangers, etc. Staff would work with the player however they can. Once the character is approved, their changes become the newly updated in-game canon.

The one concern raised previously had been about variant characters with big, very public differences that change in-game history (e.g. Kara Zor-El/Superwoman being the first modern demonstrated Kryptonian hero). The best answer developed previously had been first come, first served. But there were those who were concerned some of those changes would potentially drive off future interested players.

--BlondieWiki (talk) 19:52, 19 June 2020 (UTC)


I do feel we will need to artificially set ages and basics on some characters. We don't need to see Batman as just starting out; he should be set to be at his prime and already established, for example. That shouldn't change no matter who is playing them or who played them previously.

I'm okay with the comic versions having priority, but that people can app MCU or other alternate versions within reason if they ask, such as having the movie version of Valkyrie over the traditional comic version.

But we do need to set a hard break on where our theme differs. Asgardians are gods, not space aliens, etc.

There are some character types that should also be limited:

  • no more than two Green Lanterns, no matter who they are, should exist, for example, whether that's Kyle Raynor, Hal Jordan, John Steward, Jessica Cruz, etc. If someone drops an existing GL, someone can then app a different character.
  • Likewise, we might want to consider that for Kryptonians or other similar characters types so we don't have too many at once.

--Metahistory (talk) 20:01, 4 July 2020 (UTC)


I'm more inclined to more hard limits than handwavey ones. I really don't like the idea of alternate world/doppleganger/whatever stuff. It's... ripe for abuse, it's ripe for confusion, and for every player you make happy because they can play their snowflake variant you'll drive ten others away because they can't deal with the inconsistency.

No, there shouldn't be six variants of Starfire in the game. But we should pick one and stick with it. Major characters should be somewhat set in age and a rough arc; the supporting characters should be able to fit in with them. I feel this does mean saying "no" to specific concepts as well-- for example, if you have set Bruce Wayne as in his 20s (not that I'm suggesting this) then a 15 year old Damian Wayne should be entirely out of the question to app because it's not physically possibly for 25 year old Bruce to have a 15 year old son. Period. I don't want to see staff approving crazy alternate timeline, world-skipping, weird muckery to make it happen. Speaking as someone who has played younger character variants or characters who don't have the arc in their BG to support kids/clones/spouses/whatever being forced on them: this is, to me, a core breaking of consent on the part of the player that's there first. (And don't expect an honest answer when someone is put on the spot of "is this okay" because people will try and go the nice-nice don't make waves route and feel guilty about "ruining other peoples RP".

--OwlCity (talk) 7/4/2020 10:50PM